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Big Dave's Gusset
Posted 25/10/2008 20:25 (#385711)
Subject: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Location: Tonbridge, Kent. 44m ASL
Floods strand hundreds of runners


Several hundred people taking part in a run in the Lake District near Keswick have been stranded by flooding and torrential rain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691020.stm





45mm in last 24 hours at Keswick, no doubt a lot more in Borrowdale...

Edited by Big Dave's Gusset 25/10/2008 20:30
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John Mason
Posted 25/10/2008 20:47 (#385714 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: RE: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober


Manager


Location: Machynlleth, Mid Wales

Thanks, Dave - have heard on radio that a big search on to try & ensure safe return for all. Hope none try anything silly - a river in spate is a force to be reckoned with to put it mildly.

Cheers - John 

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Andy Mayhew
Posted 25/10/2008 21:39 (#385718 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
I hope everyone is safe. One of our forum members - Toreador - is taking part.

I have to say that given conditions on Thursday and the forecast for today I had reservations about the event going ahead.

My forecast:

With ground already saturated, some flooding looks very likely. Coupled with the low cloud and gales it is definitely not a day for the hills!


Hopefully Toreador is okay and will check in with us when he gets home
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 25/10/2008 21:45 (#385720 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
some first hand accounts here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691338.stm
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 25/10/2008 21:49 (#385721 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
Story is also 2nd headline news on BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691020.stm
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Uskys
Posted 25/10/2008 21:50 (#385724 - in reply to #385718)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober


Manager

Location: Brecon Beacons, Wales, UK. 1,100' ASL
Andy Mayhew - 25/10/2008 21:39

I have to say that given conditions on Thursday and the forecast for today I had reservations about the event going ahead.


Mountains are killers in less arduous conditions, hypothermia can set in at much higher temps etc than a lot of people are aware of who go out on them. I hope the rescue teams are safe.


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Dan G
Posted 26/10/2008 01:09 (#385747 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober


Location: Exeter/Reading
Cumbria was Flash warned for heavy rain early this morning, with up to 80 mm expected.

Now it's the services and volunteer teams who are picking up the pieces. I hope the organisers will be making a significant donation to the teams as an apology for sending people out in crazy conditions!
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Singo
Posted 26/10/2008 01:56 (#385751 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober






Location: Hoylake, Wirral
A feeling of deja-vu for Honister Pass after Thursday's events ... http://www.news-and-star.co.uk/news/heavy_rain_causes_widespread_fl...
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 26/10/2008 08:49 (#385770 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
Looking at rainfall accumulation maps, I'd say there's been close on 100mm rain fall over the Central Lake District in the past 24 hours - which is about twice as much as what models were indicating on Friday.

Keswick has 57mm to midnight and Shap 69mm Other stations in the area do not report on a daily basis so we can only estimate what may have fallen at Seathwaite.

Conditions will be much better up there today - with just some light rain still hanging about atm, and winds also much lighter.

Latest BBC report:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691531.stm
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 26/10/2008 08:52 (#385771 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
Incidently, I think a bit of exaggeration here?

Overnight, 300 runners sheltered in Honister slate mine, which has seen 1ft (40cm) of rain fall since Thursday, according to the Environment Agency.


I would say closer to 200mm?
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badbuoy
Posted 26/10/2008 10:01 (#385779 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober





Location: Dumfries
24 hour totals to today at 0600
Borrowdale School 135.6mm (unofficial)
Capel Curig 90.4
Shap 79.8
Keswick 66.0
Eskdalemuir 53.8
Spadeadam 51.8
Trawscoed 51.6
St.Bee's Head 42.0

Mike
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Big Dave's Gusset
Posted 26/10/2008 10:53 (#385793 - in reply to #385771)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Location: Tonbridge, Kent. 44m ASL
Andy Mayhew - 26/10/2008 08:52

Incidently, I think a bit of exaggeration here?

Overnight, 300 runners sheltered in Honister slate mine, which has seen 1ft (40cm) of rain fall since Thursday, according to the Environment Agency.


I would say closer to 200mm?

Seems that way, although Honister Pass is at around 450 masl, 400mm in 72 hours seems to be greatly overdoing it unless the EA have a secret pluviometer up there somewhere.

[EDIT] The EA have a rain gauge called Honister (Derwent), where it is and whether this is additional to the one at Seathwaite. it's readings are not in the public domain it seems?

Edited by Big Dave's Gusset 26/10/2008 11:00
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Midnight sun
Posted 26/10/2008 11:15 (#385797 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Banned



Location: East Devon - (260m ASL)
I believe the rain has subsided now
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 26/10/2008 11:18 (#385799 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
The 5th-6th Feb 1989 storm produced 306mm in 48 hours. Most of that fell on me overnight ....
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Big Dave's Gusset
Posted 26/10/2008 11:23 (#385800 - in reply to #385799)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Location: Tonbridge, Kent. 44m ASL
Andy Mayhew - 26/10/2008 11:18

The 5th-6th Feb 1989 storm produced 306mm in 48 hours. Most of that fell on me overnight .... :(

You're a glutton for punishment! OT I must admit I really hate hiking in pouring rain and wearing proper rainproof gear so I usually opt out - at least I can counter that it's not just a wussy thing about not getting wet but there are serious dangers associated with it and sometimes discretion is the better part of valour...
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scrapemedic
Posted 26/10/2008 12:30 (#385814 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Manager


Location: WNW London
A bit OT but they were reporting that the police were having additional problems accounting for the runners as they were having trouble contacting the organisers? Surely the organisers are there on the scene?

Edited by scrapemedic 26/10/2008 12:31
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Mogster
Posted 26/10/2008 15:32 (#385851 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober





Location: Wigan - Greater Manchester
The video on the other BBC page is well worth a watch, shows much better how bad the conditions were. The shot of the people struggling to walk down the road 1min in is amazing for the UK. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691531.stm

Edited by Mogster 26/10/2008 15:34
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 26/10/2008 15:38 (#385852 - in reply to #385814)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs

scrapemedic - 26/10/2008 12:30 A bit OT but they were reporting that the police were having additional problems accounting for the runners as they were having trouble contacting the organisers? Surely the organisers are there on the scene?

Well how were the police intending to contact the runners?

Do they have a telepathy department?

As for the organisers, I think they were cut off by flood waters.

My impression is that the 'emergency services' created an emergency that never existed.  But then again, I don't believe anything the media say.

 

Fact is: a number of people prepared to camp in adverse weather camped in adverse weather and safely came down off the hill next day.

 

 

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Uskys
Posted 26/10/2008 15:42 (#385854 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober


Manager

Location: Brecon Beacons, Wales, UK. 1,100' ASL
"Well how were the police intending to contact the runners?"

They didn't say they were trying to contact them, they just wanted to account for them. All the runners had electronic id tags, and the organisers had all the details.
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Andy Mayhew
Posted 27/10/2008 08:10 (#385974 - in reply to #385711)
Subject: Re: Floods strand hundreds of runners 25th Ocober



Executive

Location: Evesham, Worcs
Some interesting accounts here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7691338.stm

Contrast the opinions of those who were participating and those who were not!
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