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Coastal erosion Winter 2014

#1 User is offline   Coast 

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:14

Of course the flooding has been and still is a widespread concern this Winter. But we have also suffered with an awful lot of coastal erosion because of the battering of the last few months and locally, Birling Gap and Rock-a-nore have suffered serious erosion and rock falls. Here's a couple of articles that illustrate this:

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UK weather: British coasts suffer years of erosion in 'hours' of storms, says National Trust


http://www.independe...st-9142338.html

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UK weather: part of cliff collapses near Rock-A-Nore in East Sussex


http://www.telegraph...ast-Sussex.html

Have you got local examples of extreme coastal erosion or excessive decay recently and do you think we should be doing more with hard or soft seas defences or should it all be left to nature and let disappear?

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:41

Funny i was just reading this "seven years of erosion in just two months" is bad
http://www.theargus...._National_Trust
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:56

View Postalan.w, on 21 February 2014 - 08:41, said:

Funny i was just reading this "seven years of erosion in just two months" is bad
http://www.theargus...._National_Trust


If you look at the picture of Birling Gap in the article and compare to as recently as January 2008, when I took this picture in almost the same spot:

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That's several tens of feet lost in 6 years
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:57

Hi Robin,

nice to see you!

I guess coastal erosion is nothing new particularly on the south coast, Jurassic coast and the east coast.

Storms have been battering the land mass here certainly since sea level rises after the last ice age.

I read somewhere recently that the ancient trackways in the Kent that lead out to the east coast are probably those used by our ancestors to cross the land bridge between us and France, when you consider that this land bridge has completely disappeared in very recent geological times, I guess it is probably futile to even consider trying to protect these coastlines, particularly when you they consist of clays, chalk and sandstone which are easily eroded anyway and even more so during storms and periods of heavy rain.

I suspect Dunwich won't be the last town in Britain consigned to the sea bed.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:58

View Postbjay, on 21 February 2014 - 08:57, said:

Hi Robin,



Ha you too Ian! Welcome.
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 16:09

It's an interesting subject Robin and that stretch of the South Coast seems vulnerable. I can't remember if I shared this article with you elsewhere :

http://news.bbc.co.u...sex/8395970.stm

This is the B & B I often used to stay at in Birling Gap and the owners took the sensible, but costly measure of having their entire home moved some 20 odd metres back from the cliff edge back in 2009. They are such nice people, and real characters. Geoff regularly used to take his boat ( which he kept on the beach ) out on fishing trips until he was well into his 70's. There was nothing he didn't know about that section of coast.

His wife Ann would walk miles across the Seven Sisters down to Cuckmere Haven, or eastwards into Eastbourne and back almost every day.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:44

View PostBluebreezer54, on 21 February 2014 - 16:09, said:

It's an interesting subject Robin and that stretch of the South Coast seems vulnerable. I can't remember if I shared this article with you elsewhere :

http://news.bbc.co.u...sex/8395970.stm

This is the B & B I often used to stay at in Birling Gap and the owners took the sensible, but costly measure of having their entire home moved some 20 odd metres back from the cliff edge back in 2009. They are such nice people, and real characters. Geoff regularly used to take his boat ( which he kept on the beach ) out on fishing trips until he was well into his 70's. There was nothing he didn't know about that section of coast.

His wife Ann would walk miles across the Seven Sisters down to Cuckmere Haven, or eastwards into Eastbourne and back almost every day.

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HI BB, nice to be here, do you know how close it is to the edge of the cliff again now?
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 07:15

^^^ I'm afraid I don't know but looking at the photo's I have seen here and elsewhere I would say somewhere between 15-20m.

What I meant to say in my earlier post was that the building was moved back from it's ORIGINAL position by approx 22m in 2009, not 20m from the cliff edge.

Robins 2008 photo shows that by then parts of the building were no more than about 2-3m from the edge. I wish I was able to get down there for another look.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:06

View PostBluebreezer54, on 22 February 2014 - 07:15, said:

Robins 2008 photo shows that by then parts of the building were no more than about 2-3m from the edge. I wish I was able to get down there for another look.


According to the BBC South East today live report on it yesterday, they have lost 6M of cliff along the Birling Gap section in the last couple of weeks. It's unlikely you will get down to the beach using the steps now as everything is unstable.



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Posted 22 February 2014 - 10:32

View PostCoast, on 22 February 2014 - 09:06, said:

According to the BBC South East today live report on it yesterday, they have lost 6M of cliff along the Birling Gap section in the last couple of weeks. It's unlikely you will get down to the beach using the steps now as everything is unstable.


That's a huge chunk of cliff then Robin. :(

No fear of me not being able to use the steps to get down to the beach any time soon, it's all I can do to get from my front door to the bin area 30 feet away these days, and that's using a walking aid !!

The last time I stayed down at Birling Gap I did the walk over the Seven Sisters and finished it off with a hearty meal and a couple of pints at the Golden Galleon. How times have changed.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:22

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Coastline erosion dramatically accelerated by winter storms

University of Plymouth scientists estimate there has been 1,000 per cent increase in coastline erosion due to the recent stormy weather



http://www.telegraph...ter-storms.html
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 20:20

National Trust demolishes Birling Gap ice cream parlour after seven years' worth of cliff fall in two months
http://www.theargus....l_in_two_months

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 08:06

View Postalan.w, on 25 February 2014 - 20:20, said:

National Trust demolishes Birling Gap ice cream parlour after seven years' worth of cliff fall in two months
http://www.theargus....l_in_two_months


Went down at high tide on Saturday to take some shots to compare to the one in my previous post from 2008. The fissure that developed on the top of the cliff has probably collapsed by now:

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This video doesn't really give you the feeling that the waves pounding against the base of the cliff gave. I've not felt it exploding like this before and although it was high tide, it wasn't a stormy day by any means.

http://s822.photobuc...80f867.mp4.html

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 13:48

Looks like it's getting worse since the weekend:


http://www.bbc.co.uk...ussex-26422117#

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 15:02

Cracking photo's and video there Robin. Thanks for sharing them. [y]
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 15:58

Even more gone cottages on edge now :( http://www.theargus....liffs_fall_away

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 18:36

More fell today caught on video here http://www.bbc.co.uk...sussex-26442187
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Posted 05 March 2014 - 09:32

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3rd March 2014

I have to say the severity of Sunday night’s storm was something of a surprise as we were expecting waves from 230° not 185°. The difference was really quite marked and erosion in some areas, particularly Normans Bay East was the worst we have seen in the 13 years we have been here. By contrast Beachlands did well as there is still some crest left.

There are very few areas where we have unrestricted crest access, so a degree of repair work is necessary before trucks can continue/re-start their journeys moving beach from east to west. It is going to be a long haul (in two ways) in getting the beach restored. There is surplus material between Herbrand Walk and Cooden, as well as in a few other places, and there is a shortfall of 30,000m3 at Sovereign Harbour, so we have to juggle restoring defences there with repairs at Beachlands, Normans Bay and elsewhere.

Machines are still working at Sovereign Harbour for another day or so, before heading east. Lorries will continue to run beach round the harbour from Langney until Wednesday. We have had three breakdowns in the last few days, which has not helped get a bulldozer to Normans Bay East, but one should be there at some point tomorrow morning, and by Thursday the bulldozer at Langney will be back on the north side of the harbour as well

Just so as you know, Sunday night’s event was a 1:50 year storm, the second one we have had this winter, and hopefully the last. Now where have I heard that before…!


Ian Thomas
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Posted 06 March 2014 - 07:31

Right from South to North as well:

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Montrose Sailing Club battles to stem the tide of coastal erosion

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http://www.thecourie...rosion-1.249663

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 14:36

View PostCoast, on 05 March 2014 - 09:32, said:



Checked out Pevensey and Normans Bay beaches today, lots of shingle being shifted back into place:

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