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#1 User is offline   Mesogeiakos 

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For years I have tried to locate the city or place within Europe that has the warmest climate on average(i.e mean annual temperature) and again I am getting conflicting information and your help would be highly appreciated.

My list of potential warmest cities on average in geographical Europe would be one of the following

Spain:Cuevas del Almanzora,Cadiz,Malaga

Malta:anywhere really

Italy:Lambedusa,Gela,Catania

Gibraltar....

Greece:Ierapetra,Karpathos,Palaiochora

What I can say with certainty from the data we have from Greek metoffice from 1957 until today is that within Greece,Ierapetra has an average annual temperature of 20.4C and is Greece's warmest city on average,then Palaiochora 20.2C (official data only the past decade) and Karpathos Island 20.0C

I have seen some very sparse reports of Cadiz and Cuevas del Almanzora in Spain having an average of 20.0C but not sure

Any ideas or info on this?
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This might take a while to research...

I'd be very surprised if anywhere on mainland Europe would exceed Ierapetra at 20.4 °C, the only place that might compare is Funchal, Madeira which is of course not part of the continental land mass and the Canaries ( e.g. Las Palmas or south coast resorts  of Tenerife) - but again islands off African coast shouldn't count even though they are respectively Portuguese and Spanish territories.

I think the hottest Spain and Portugal cities (e.g. Seville/Malaga/Faro) would be around 17 - 19 °C annual mean, not sure about Sicily. Eastern Med sounds much more likely though.

I had some links somewhere once for Spain but might take a long time for me to find them again. Almería could potentially be warmest all year round in Spain at around 19 °C. Needs to be verified...

[EDIT] Almería officially 18.7 °C and Seville 18.82 °C from Spanish Met AEM; Málaga, Cadiz and Gibraltar slightly cooler - still need to check other cities...


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Valetta on Malta has an annual mean of 18.7C

http://www.utsc.utor...D/valletta.html
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Palermo 17.9C not sure of course how reliable any of these sources are

http://www.climatete...ly/palermo.html
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The warmest city in geographical Europe on average is Ierapetra in Greece. It is located in the extreme south east of Crete and has a yearly average temperature of 20C and 3000 hours of sunshine per year.

The city that holds the OFFICIAL European record for the highest ever recorded temperature in Europe is a suburb of the Greek capital Athens, called Elesfis and the temperature recorded there on 10/07/1977 was 48 C or 118.4 F

Data are peer reviewed and presented internationally in the archive of the World Meteorological Organization

http://wmo.asu.edu/e...hest-temperatur
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This might take a while to research...

I'd be very surprised if anywhere on mainland Europe would exceed Ierapetra at 20.4 °C, the only place that might compare is Funchal, Madeira which is of course not part of the continental land mass and the Canaries ( e.g. Las Palmas or south coast resorts  of Tenerife) - but again islands off African coast shouldn't count even though they are respectively Portuguese and Spanish territories.

I think the hottest Spain and Portugal cities (e.g. Seville/Malaga/Faro) would be around 17 - 19 °C annual mean, not sure about Sicily. Eastern Med sounds much more likely though.

I had some links somewhere once for Spain but might take a long time for me to find them again. Almería could potentially be warmest all year round in Spain at around 19 °C. Needs to be verified...

[EDIT] Almería officially 18.7 °C and Seville 18.82 °C from Spanish Met AEM; Málaga, Cadiz and Gibraltar slightly cooler - still need to check other cities...



Actually I think you are right.My research suggests that specific parts of the Almeria province may have the highest average.In fact I have managed to pinpoint a city called Cuevas del Almanzora that consistently gives slightly higher average than Almeria and stands at about 19.5 to 20.0

Also Lampedusa in Italy seems to be pretty close to 20.0 but I am not even sure if the Island is considered Europe in strict geographical terms.Most likely it is within Europe though.
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The warmest city in geographical Europe on average is Ierapetra in Greece. It is located in the extreme south east of Crete and has a yearly average temperature of 20C and 3000 hours of sunshine per year.

The city that holds the OFFICIAL European record for the highest ever recorded temperature in Europe is a suburb of the Greek capital Athens, called Elesfis and the temperature recorded there on 10/07/1977 was 48 C or 118.4 F

Data are peer reviewed and presented internationally in the archive of the World Meteorological Organization

http://wmo.asu.edu/e...hest-temperatur


Thank you,very interesting find however the link only verifies the European temp record.I am not sure how the WMO can actually confirm this.I checked everywhere and for Greece it ony gives averages for Athens and Thessaloniki.
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Palermo 17.9C not sure of course how reliable any of these sources are

http://www.climatete...ly/palermo.html


I wouldnt say it's Palermo to be honest.Athens for example has an average of 18.1C (mainly due to the extremely high July and August average which stands at around 29C and is even higher than the average July temp of Seville and Cordova)
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Gibralter 18.4C
http://www.climatetemp.info/gibraltar/
Cadiz 18.1C
http://www.climatete...pain/cadiz.html

Interestingly the same site gives each country all over the worlds annual mean temp, and Greece`s annual mean temp comes in by far the warmest in Europe with an annual mean of 18.3C and this compared to Spains 13.5C


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Ian Williams - 26/3/2010 10:41

Gibralter 18.4C
http://www.climatetemp.info/gibraltar/
Cadiz 18.1C
http://www.climatete...pain/cadiz.html

Interestingly the same site gives each country all over the worlds annual mean temp, and Greece`s annual mean temp comes in by far the warmest in Europe with an annual mean of 18.3C and this compared to Spains 13.5C



Indeed on average it should be Greece as a whole the warmest country in Europe,but there are defenetilly warm spots in Spain,Italy and Portugal that are comparable on average with the South East Greek Isles and Crete.
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There are a number of official figures in Spain of around 47ºC, including at Écija , also known as the 'sartén or frying pan of Andalucia' in the province of Seville, with 47.0ºC in 1959 and again 1967, and Seville itself in 1946, also with 47ºC, Badajoz: 47.0ºC in August 1964 and Cordoba: with 46.6ºC on 23-7-1995. The highest absolute temperature appears to be Murcia more recently with 47.8°C on 29-7-1976, though weather people suspect that temperatures of 50ºC have been reached at points in the Guadalquivir basin. Many books including the Spanish version of the Guiness Book of Records give the absolute record in Spain as the 51ºC recorded in Seville on 30th July 1876. This, however, is not accepted by experts as it was made using suspect equipment. Doubts also hang over the 48.8ºC recorded in Cazalla (Seville) on 30th August 1926.
By year-round average the warmest capitals are Almería with 18.5ºC, Huelva with 18.3ºC and Cadiz with 18.2ºC. Probably the consistently hottest areas are the Vegas Bajas del Guadiana ( Badajoz ) and Guadalquivir Valley (provincies of Seville and Cordoba ).
In the Canaries, average annual temperatures are around 21ºC along the coast and at low altitudes
while at the Izaña Observatory (Tenerife) at 2,367 m. high, the average yearly temperature drops to 9.7ºC, lower than the coolest capitals of the Peninsula. Temperature records, while not as high as the Peninsula are around 44.0ºC.
The opposite end of the scale is more complex as altitude, something not lacking in Europe's second highest country, plays such an important role in bringing down the temperature. Forget the clichés of sunny Spain. If you sleep out in Central Spain in January you will probably die. Both Castillas have some 30 odd records of temperatures of under -20. The official record of the lowest temperature in Spain is at Estany Gento in Lerida with -32ºC in 1956, though once again experts suspect that some of the peaks in the Aragonese Pyrenees have fallen as low as -40ºC. Perhaps the coldest land in Spain, if altitude is taken into account, is the relatively low Sistema Ibérico between Zaragoza, Teruel and Guadalajara. Here, at the Calamocha and Molina de Aragón weather stations, records of -28ºC to -30ºC have been recorded. I am reminded of a student I had from Zaragoza who was a lingerie salesman. His car broke down in a blizzard on the road to Teruel. He saved himself by putting on dozens of tights.
The coldest regional capitals in Spain are in Castilla y León ( Burgos yearly of average 9.9ºC, Avila con 10.4ºC and Soria 10.5ºC.)
Figures are taken from 'Climas y tiempos de España' by Javier Martín and Jorge Olcina, 2001 and the Instituto Nacional de Meteorologia at http://www.inm.es/ .

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Actually let me correct the Athens average .Two of the official stations that the Greek metoffice uses for Athens have 17.73C (North suburbs-Nea Filadelfeia) and 18.59C (south suburbs-Hellinikon) retrospectively as metropolitan Athens spreads along a vast area within the Attica Basin.

This probably means that the south suburbs of Athens are within the warmest places on average in Europe.In fact Laurion just 40km south of Athens in Attica has an average of 19.1C according to the Greek metoffice
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Mesogeiakos - 26/3/2010 10:32  Also Lampedusa in Italy seems to be pretty close to 20.0 but I am not even sure if the Island is considered Europe in strict geographical terms.Most likely it is within Europe though.


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"Politically and administratively Lampedusa is part of Italy, but geologically it belongs to Africa since the sea between the two is no deeper than 120 metres"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampedusa

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Mesogeiakos - 26/3/2010 10:32  Also Lampedusa in Italy seems to be pretty close to 20.0 but I am not even sure if the Island is considered Europe in strict geographical terms.Most likely it is within Europe though.


Quote from wikipedia (caution: has no citation)

"Politically and administratively Lampedusa is part of Italy, but geologically it belongs to Africa since the sea between the two is no deeper than 120 metres"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampedusa


I also had doubts about Lampedusa.After this I will tentatively treat it as within Africa until we know for sure.
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As a reference and since I could not find many data on Lampedusa I checked the closest Tunisian cities to Lampedusa and the averages I have for all the North Tunisia cities close to Lampedusa do not surpass 19C
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Ian Williams - 26/3/2010 10:21 Palermo 17.9C not sure of course how reliable any of these sources are http://www.climatetemp.info/italy/palermo.html  


Using http://www.scia.sinanet.apat.it/sciaweb/scia_valori_tabelle.html for period 1961 - 1990 for Sicilian locations,

Palermo (Punta Raissi) 18.6 °C
Messina 18.6 °C
Cozza Spadaro 18.4 °C
Pantelleria 17.6 °C 

Nowhere else in Italy really comes close to these values.


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Ian Williams - 26/3/2010 10:21 Palermo 17.9C not sure of course how reliable any of these sources are http://www.climatetemp.info/italy/palermo.html  


Using http://www.scia.sinanet.apat.it/sciaweb/scia_valori_tabelle.html for period 1961 - 1990 for Sicilian locations,

Palermo (Punta Raissi) 18.6 °C
Messina 18.6 °C
Cozza Spadaro 18.4 °C
Pantelleria 17.6 °C 

Nowhere else in Italy really comes close to these values.



Thank you interesting read.This probably means that specific areas of Almeria need to be excluded before we can say with certainty that Ierapetra and generaly Southern Crete is the warmest place on average in Europe.

I wish we could find the data for Almeria province cities as the ones I have seen are just vague and sparse reports...
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I don't think there are any official met stations elsewhere in Almería province, I found one that looks like a personal AWS in Cuevas del Almanzora but with the official figures at 18.7 for Almería Airport being the highest in Andalucia, I can't see that anywhere would be so significantly warmer.

http://www.aemet.es/es/elclima/datosclimatologicos/valoresclimatologicos?k=and

For example this table shows an anuual mean of 20.0 °C or higher to be a rarity, certainly not 50% or higher frequency.

http://www.tutiempo.net/clima/Almeria_Aeropuerto/84870.htm

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I don't think there are any official met stations elsewhere in Almería province, I found one that looks like a personal AWS in Cuevas del Almanzora but with the official figures at 18.7 for Almería Airport being the highest in Andalucia, I can't see that anywhere would be so significantly warmer.

http://www.aemet.es/es/elclima/datosclimatologicos/valoresclimatologicos?k=and

For example this table shows an anuual mean of 20.0 °C or higher to be a rarity, certainly not 50% or higher frequency.

http://www.tutiempo.net/clima/Almeria_Aeropuerto/84870.htm


Very very interesting indeed.If we conclude that Almeria with a 18.7C average is the highest in Spain and higher than any place in Italy then it is worth noting that parts of the Athens metropolitan area with 18.6C average temp are among the warmest places in Europe..so it turns out that I grew up in one of the warmest places of Europe,cool :-)

In fact it is worth noting that Pireaus which is Athen's port within the Athens metropolitan area has consistently the highest minimum July and August temps on average with a 23.8C average minimum for July.You get set of nights(some times 10 or 15 nights in a month) in the southern Athens suburbs during summer that temperatures remain above 25C!In fact interestingly enough Pireaus has even higher minimum summer temps compared to Southern Crete ...making it Greece's warmest place in terms of summer minimums...which is very odd indeed!!!


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And here is what tutiempo gives for Athens averages.a quick look of all the years gives about 18.5C average for the ex airport

http://www.tutiempo....port/167160.htm
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