[Dave K]

 Managed to find somewhere a little wetter in the 25 - 35 °S latitudes and not quite where I expected.

The whole list is now complete though not finished as there are certain to be omissions and errors. Again to say that this is not intended to be authoritative or definitive, corrections and suggestions are welcome and with a link to any useful online sources. I hope this is of some interest given the work involved ;)

This would not have been possible without, http://wmo.asu.edu/ and the numerous national meteorological office websites as well as the British Antarctic Survey plus another source I found purely by chance http://www.globalbioclimatics.org/ and on paper form old climatic data tables published by the Meteorological Office gave me a lot of clues where to seek the driest and wettest areas.

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[Rupert Wood]

It's worth adding that the 30-year averages for Arica and Iquique (1971-2000) are lower than 0.7mm - at 0.5mm and 0.6mm respectively. Also, Quillagua inland from Antofagasta is quoted aS 0.5mm for 1964-2001:

http://www.metoffice...factsheet09.pdf

[Dave K]

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Rupert Wood - 11/8/2010 08:03 It's worth adding that the 30-year averages for Arica and Iquique (1971-2000) are lower than 0.7mm - at 0.5mm and 0.6mm respectively. Also, Quillagua inland from Antofagasta is quoted aS 0.5mm for 1964-2001: http://www.metoffice...factsheet09.pdf

Thanks Rupert, ideally I would have used 1971 - 2000 data for everywhere but it just wasn't possible track them down easily, some of the places I managed to get data for relate to 50 years and other to far less - even the WMO site is inconsistent with respect to the periods it uses.

[granlay]

Hello, i'm from reunion island so sorry for my english. i wanted to send a link for 'my' piton de la fournaise and its slopes extremely wet, one of the wettest place in earth, too much wetter than takamaka. Unfortunatly, there is no gauge in the wettest place since 1995. The station 'hauts de sainte-rose'(860m) has an average of 10650mm but the maximun is near 18OOm with probably 12000 to 15000mm. IN 1994, a gauge received more than 20000mm. Several gauges stayed there only 3 years for studies and the average were up to 16000mm!!! But in an island with all world record rainfalls between 12h and 15 days, it's not amazing...
Sorry again for the mistakes.
http://www.rse.inrs....e9/v9n4_457.pdf

[Dave K]

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granlay - 17/8/2010 18:30 Hello, i'm from reunion island so sorry for my english. i wanted to send a link for 'my' piton de la fournaise and its slopes extremely wet, one of the wettest place in earth, too much wetter than takamaka. Unfortunatly, there is no gauge in the wettest place since 1995. The station 'hauts de sainte-rose'(860m) has an average of 10650mm but the maximun is near 18OOm with probably 12000 to 15000mm. IN 1994, a gauge received more than 20000mm. Several gauges stayed there only 3 years for studies and the average were up to 16000mm!!! But in an island with all world record rainfalls between 12h and 15 days, it's not amazing... Sorry again for the mistakes. http://www.rse.inrs.ca/art/volume9/v9n4_457.pdf

Thank you for the information and the link to the document, it is true I had some difficulty getting exact rainfall totals for La Réunion, in fact the Takamaka total came from 1949 - 1953 only, nowhere could I get 30 year climate data for the wettest stations. Météo-France may have more information but I only find a reference to a book which one has to buy. Anyway it is clear the the island is the wettest place in this latititude thanks to the extremely heavy short duration rainfalls.

So, for the next update to the table I will add Hauts de Sainte-Rose in place of Takamaka.

[yellowsubmarine]

hello, between 45 º -55 º is a city that has a lower rainfall than Barun Urt, Karamay also has hot summers for its latitude.

http://en.wikipedia....Karamay#Climate

http://www.worldclim...d.pl?gr=N45E084

[Dave K]

 

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yellowsubmarine - 14/10/2010 19:34 hello, between 45 º -55 º is a city that has a lower rainfall than Barun Urt, Karamay also has hot summers for its latitude. http://en.wikipedia....Karamay#Climate http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/grid.pl?gr=N45E084  

Thanks - good find :)

I should repost these tables soon with the revisions...

[Dave K]

Here are the latest versions of the minimums and maximums, still draft for they remain unconfirmed as highest or lowest respectively.

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[yellowsubmarine]

Hello,
There are a fact of rainfall over Papua, which is not as high as Mapenduma, but it seems a more reliable data, the place is called Wabo with 9060 liters per year


http://commonwealth....ecipitation.htm

[Dave K]

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yellowsubmarine - 15/10/2010 18:53 Hello, There are a fact of rainfall over Papua, which is not as high as Mapenduma, but it seems a more reliable data, the place is called Wabo with 9060 liters per year http://commonwealth.ednet.ns.ca/southpacific/PapuaNG/Rec_of_avg_precipitation.htm  

Thanks again, that looks reliable, at least it tallies with the figure I got for Ningerum. Pity it doesn't give the dates for the data series, but I found a figure of 8 929 mm sourced  from the Australia BOM for 1962 - 1989 though so I'll go with that for now.

http://www.bom.gov.au/water/about/waterResearch/document/purari.pdf

Another revision on the way soon...

[yellowsubmarine]

hello

Dave's good if you put the link, it seems that 9000 mm is an acceptable approximation precipitation average in Wabo.

Well, turning to another issue I think in the mountains near the coast of Parana state, there may be a place with precipitation exceeding 3000 mm per year.

on this map would be the area that is east of Curitiba

http://www.iapar.br/...hp?conteudo=595

Particular place is called Veu de Noiva, at an altitude of 683 meters and 25.26 south latitude, in the municipality of Morretes,

annual precipitation: 3,600 mm



“Mean annual rainfall at the Véu de Noiva meteorological station (2.55 km far from the plot, 25°26' S, 48°57' W, 680 m in elevation) is 3,601.6 mm. The wettest season is from September to March (monthly mean: 377.34 mm) with a less humid one from April to August (monthly mean: 194.39 mm). In the driest season there is no water deficit. The mean air humidity of the municipality of Paranaguá (approximately 42 km E of the plot, at sea-level) is 85% and in the municipality of Curitiba (approximately 32 km to the W, 908 m in elevation) is 82%. It is believed that humidity is even higher at the study site probably due to orographic rains and constant fog (personal observation). The mean annual temperature, calculated according to Maack's formula (Maack 1968), is 18.1 °C. There are no data on temperature at this altitude, only at 908 m (16.5 °C, Curitiba) and at sea-level (21.1 °C, Paranaguá). “



changing the subject pogo two links which are the location of the stations in Reunion Island, which politically belongs to France, almost no data are only the place of the stations and another with maximum daily precipitation in 2008 and the days of precipitation that year.
http://www.meteo.fr/...s/bca/bca13.pdf


http://www.meteo.fr/...s/bca/bca14.pdf

[Dave K]

Thanks, this is helpful and much appreciated :)  Excellent info for Brazil confirms the suspicions.

Regarding the links for La Reunion, the first is for the moth of March and does give 1971 - 2000 averages too - if only they put on line the whole year or even every month so we could work it out...

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yellowsubmarine - 22/10/2010 18:13 hello Dave's good if you put the link, it seems that 9000 mm is an acceptable approximation precipitation average in Wabo. Well, turning to another issue I think in the mountains near the coast of Parana state, there may be a place with precipitation exceeding 3000 mm per year. on this map would be the area that is east of Curitiba http://www.iapar.br/...hp?conteudo=595 Particular place is called Veu de Noiva, at an altitude of 683 meters and 25.26 south latitude, in the municipality of Morretes, annual precipitation: 3,470 mm “Mean annual rainfall at the Véu de Noiva meteorological station (2.55 km far from the plot, 25°26' S, 48°57' W, 680 m in elevation) is 3,601.6 mm. The wettest season is from September to March (monthly mean: 377.34 mm) with a less humid one from April to August (monthly mean: 194.39 mm). In the driest season there is no water deficit. The mean air humidity of the municipality of Paranaguá (approximately 42 km E of the plot, at sea-level) is 85% and in the municipality of Curitiba (approximately 32 km to the W, 908 m in elevation) is 82%. It is believed that humidity is even higher at the study site probably due to orographic rains and constant fog (personal observation). The mean annual temperature, calculated according to Maack's formula (Maack 1968), is 18.1 °C. There are no data on temperature at this altitude, only at 908 m (16.5 °C, Curitiba) and at sea-level (21.1 °C, Paranaguá). “ changing the subject pogo two links which are the location of the stations in Reunion Island, which politically belongs to France, almost no data are only the place of the stations and another with maximum daily precipitation in 2008 and the days of precipitation that year. http://www.meteo.fr/...s/bca/bca13.pdf http://www.meteo.fr/...s/bca/bca14.pdf

[Dave K]

So...the latest amendment to the maximum precipitation stats:

[yellowsubmarine]

Hello, mountainous area near the ocean, also appears to have more rainfall than 5700 mm of Port Walter, although not the same few colors on a map that measured values of a meteorological station.

but from 7001 mm to 13000 mm gray areas, would be a big mistake but I had some reason to

http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/pcpn/ak.gif

[Dave K]

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yellowsubmarine - 27/10/2010 20:01 Hello, mountainous area near the ocean, also appears to have more rainfall than 5700 mm of Port Walter, although not the same few colors on a map that measured values of a meteorological station. but from 7001 mm to 13000 mm gray areas, would be a big mistake but I had some reason to http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/pcpn/ak.gif

I had a look again at the Alaska and Yukon Territory 30 year records but it seem there are no recording stations in that area ( which is extremely mountainous, between 5 000 and 6  000m asl ). In fact the Yukon stations inland have a distinct rain shadow with very low rainfall relatively, and the coastal strip is no more wet than Little Port Walter. So we can say I think that 5 700 mm/yr is likely to be exceeded by rainfall from orographic forcing but the totals are only an estimate - unless anyone has concrete information.

[yellowsubmarine]

hello, there are no public data or the sites that appear high rainfall.

Although perhaps something similar happens in Alaska to New Zealand more rainfall areas are between 200-900metros.

Well going to another topic, Puerto Eden is a different place Guarello island, eden port the annual rainfall is 3600 mm, is located a little further north, Guarello island is 50 degrees latitude.

that perhaps elsewhere in the latitude between 5 º -15 º can be Pisco at 13 ° of latitude with an annual rainfall in the period 1950-1991 of 2.5 mm.

http://www.met.igp.g...HTML/pisco.html



and in the 1942-1990 period 1.6 mm
http://www.worldclim...076+2100+84691W

[yellowsubmarine]

displayed here, Weather stations that are in the area south of Chile, but no data, only the location

http://www.umag.cl/c..._regionales.htm

[Dave K]

 

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yellowsubmarine - 8/11/2010 19:44  Well going to another topic, Puerto Eden is a different place Guarello island, eden port the annual rainfall is 3600 mm, is located a little further north, Guarello island is 50 degrees latitude. that perhaps elsewhere in the latitude between 5 º -15 º can be Pisco at 13 ° of latitude with an annual rainfall in the period 1950-1991 of 2.5 mm. http://www.met.igp.g...HTML/pisco.html and in the 1942-1990 period 1.6 mm http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?ref=S13W076+2100+84691W 

You are right about Puerto Edén, I have no idea now where I found that information. The document http://www.ieb-chile.cl/publications/pdf/Moreno%20et%20al%201999%20Geogr%20Ann.pdf  (see page 6) states 7330 mm/yr at Isla Guarello 50° 21'S, and also 7000mm by http://www.dgf.uchile.cl/PRECIS/articles-39442_pdf_Estudio_texto.pdf page 12.

Good find about Pisco for the 5 to 15°S latitude band. Time for another redraft soon then   :)

[yellowsubmarine]

Hello, we are completing some places where people speak Spanish I can consult more easily to some data, for example in the range of 45 º -55 º could place somewhere most renowned, such as the town of Perito Moreno, which by Apparently there is an airfield

http://es.wikipedia....eno_(Santa_Cruz)
precipitation shown on wikipedia is somewhat low only 116 mm, correponde the period 1951-1960, which was somewhat dry, this other page is a longer period of 20 years and may be about 130 mm per year

http://www.inta.gov....9lite_MODIS.pdf


also may serve Sarmiento, a town of 8000 inhabitants

http://www.worldclim...d.pl?gr=S45W069

[yellowsubmarine]

ello, and to finish, I looked at some pages of climate of Patagonia and the only places with rainfall around 100mm are places with little population and no reliability data have

Department Chubut
Código de Estación: Ct_022 - Nombre: Cerro Cóndor Gob.
Longitud (°): -69,18 - Latitud: -43,35 - Altura: 250
Registro Un. Período Conf. Ene Feb Mar Abr May Jun Jul Ago Sep Oct Nov Dic Anual
Precipitación mm 48-69 2 2,83 9,75 6,24 5,40 17,02 10,86 5,19 6,02 6,62 3,93 1,30 11,76 86,91



Department Rio negro
Código de Estación: Rn_005 - Nombre: Bajada Colorada
Longitud (°): -69,73 - Latitud (º): -39,85 - Altura (msnm) : 440
Registro Un. Período Conf. Fuente Ene Feb Mar Abr May Jun Jul Ago Sep Oct Nov Dic Anual
Precipitación mm 37-59 2 Hidronor 6,82 2,15 3,58 7,78 19,26 15,73 12,55 8,90 7,45 5,63 4,90 4,93 99,67





respect to the annual record of annual rainfall in Europe, I think someone had a confusion with the names as Crkvice Crkvice or something is a name common in Slavic languages, so that name can be found in Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, etc.

Not only is there confusion with the name of the country, if Crkvice is in Bosnia or Montenegro, also matches the latitude and longitude, and altitude.

at latitude 1 ° difference is further north

320 meters in height.

rainfall
4.648mm (183.0") 22 years Crkvica, Bosnia- Hercegovina 43°54'N, 17°43'E 1310m (4298 ft)



altitude
Crkvice 940m

42°34'00?N 18°38'00?E: MONTENEGRO

That part of the record according to the geographical coodenadas would be very close to Sarajevo

Sarajevo (dark green, center)
Coordinates: 43°52'0?N 18°25'0? E


And according to the map of annual precipitation is in the Weather Service of Bosnia, there are places with high rainfall, only puts more than 2000 mm and the area of Sarajevo, is much lower

http://www.fhmzbih.g...BH-PADAVINE.jpg