[Ian Williams]

Morgane, Ogimet has the max down as 16.6C for Cap Corse, also check this link

http://www.meteociel...=10&annee2=2011

[Mesogeiakos]

Why not do it for the ''hardcore'' months of DJF?

Btw I agree with Ian for Greek stations

[Ian Williams]

Mesogeiakos, on 08 November 2011 - 21:57, said:

Why not do it for the ''hardcore'' months of DJF?

Btw I agree with Ian for Greek stations

Hi Pit thats what i am going to do DJF ,glad you agree with the stations

[DG57]

Yes, right, 16.6°C was the true max. for Cape Corsica 9am-9pm on 7th Nov. 2011.

OGIMET is truly reliable when you know how to read it, with the hours. Anyway, I trust you Ian, for your extremely serious and conscientious work !

Thank you very very much !

Oh, and 'un petit coucou' to my dear Pit !

[stormy]

MorganeLanesle, on 08 November 2011 - 20:49, said:

Cabo Carvoeiro seems to be well into the ocean, it must be very mild.

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I hope I'm not wrong with the location ?

Yes...but i think that the other´s can be milder...when tropical plumes come from the SW Cabo Carvoeiro doesn´t wam´s as much as the coast South from Lisbon.

Also Cabo carvoeiro has pretty low max temps...
I would run it if we could have 6 stations....lol..buth it´s a difficult decision...i think i prefer to sacrifice C carvoeiro itself..lol

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[Ian Williams]

Here are yesterdays figures, i will post the accumulative means once a week. Just for comparison only Cabo Carvoeiro had a mean of 15.05C yesterday.

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[Ian Williams]

Looking at this mornings minimums and Portugal has done much better

Sagres 18.0C
Faro 15.8C
Sines 15.7C

[stormy]

Don´t forget we are talking about Barreiro-Lavradio station, not Barreiro-cidade.
Barreiro cidade is just S of Barreiro town, in a low lying place where they can have quite chilly nights in winter.

Barreiro-lavradio is a higher area of the town, just on the shore of the Tagus Estuary.

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[Ian Williams]

stormy, on 09 November 2011 - 16:52, said:

Don´t forget we are talking about Barreiro-Lavradio station, not Barreiro-cidade.
Barreiro cidade is just S of Barreiro town, in a low lying place where they can have quite chilly nights in winter.

Barreiro-lavradio is a higher area of the town, just on the shore of the Tagus Estuary.

Yes, thats the one i am using Francisco



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[DG57]

I'm surprised of the good ranking of the five French stations. Cloudy skies and southerlies make it !

But when we'll enter into the heart of winter, either there is a cold snap or not, I think the five will drop seriously to occupy places from 22nd to 26th. lol

[Ian Williams]

MorganeLanesle, on 09 November 2011 - 17:18, said:

I'm surprised of the good ranking of the five French stations. Cloudy skies and southerlies make it !

But when we'll enter into the heart of winter, either there is a cold snap or not, I think the five will drop seriously to occupy places from 22nd to 26th. lol

Or maybe you will not have to wait that long, lol

Portugal done alot better yesterday, but Italy still the warmest taking all Top 5 places.



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This post has been edited by Ian Williams: 10 November 2011 - 17:50

[Costa]

If was me i would replace Barreiro by Cabo Carvoeiro

[tormenta]

Hey,

Tarifa may be a candidate.

in the period 1971-1999 the coldest month has an average temperature of 13.4 º

http://www.aemet.es/...os?l=6001&k=and

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[Ian Williams]

tormenta, on 11 November 2011 - 14:11, said:

Hey,

Tarifa may be a candidate.

in the period 1971-1999 the coldest month has an average temperature of 13.4 º

http://www.aemet.es/...os?l=6001&k=and

Hi, Tormenta, That is impressive but unfortunately AEMET does not publish its daily data anymore, nor does Ogimet so I can not get the daily data.

Here is yesterdays temperatures, along with the means for Portugal for the last 4 days, i have included Capo Carvoeiro for comparison


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[tormenta]

Yes, you're right Ian, Tarifa is no daily data, it is a shame, it seemed a good candidate


http://www.aemet.es/...d&w=1&datos=det

[Mesogeiakos]

how come Tarifa has so cool summers?Is it influenced by the Atlantic or something?It's July mean max is about the same as areas of South East England!

sorry for the off topic!

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[Ian Williams]

Mesogeiakos, on 11 November 2011 - 18:00, said:

how come Tarifa has so cool summers?Is it influenced by the Atlantic or something?It's July mean max is about the same as areas of South East England!

sorry for the off topic!

Looking at its location Pit, definitely cooled in the summer by westerlies coming off the Atlantic. Just spent last hour or so finding the averages for winter, all are from their countries meteorological organisations with the exception of Gibraltar, figures here are given in whole so could be cooler, am going to include Palermo at the expense of either Gela or Capo Carbonara when we start properly in December. No data for Palaiohora so i have included Ierapetra`s which is i believe a fraction less than Palaiohora going by previous studies, so i would say its probably around 13.3C for the average winter mean.





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This post has been edited by Ian Williams: 11 November 2011 - 19:51

[tormenta]

The station north front seems more close to the sea


http://www.worldclim...d.pl?gr=N36W005



http://en.wikipedia....i/RAF_Gibraltar

[Ian Williams]

tormenta, on 11 November 2011 - 19:43, said:

The station north front seems more close to the sea

http://www.worldclim...d.pl?gr=N36W005

http://en.wikipedia....i/RAF_Gibraltar

Nice one Tormenta, though the data is old 1852 to 1950 its more professional than the site I was using http://www.climatete...altar/#imperial

I have now adjusted the table above, thank you.

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[Ian Williams]

Aha! Have found the 1971-2000 data and Gibraltar is way warmer

Here is the link http://meteo-climat-...971-2000-21.php

New revised table below.

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