[Chris Alder]

Duncan Railton, on 13 June 2012 - 15:48, said:

The rest of the month needs to average 6.1 per day now to avoid being my worst ever summer month - behind July 2007 which scored 4.98 and included the Sheffield floods!

That maybe hard given Thurs-Mon several days could struggle to get to 2 or 3 on your scoring system.

[skanky]

Duncan Railton, on 13 June 2012 - 15:48, said:

The rest of the month needs to average 6.1 per day now to avoid being my worst ever summer month - behind July 2007 which scored 4.98 and included the Sheffield floods!

You mean June 2007?

[Chris Alder]

Well for those not working today or tomorrow enjoy the reasonable weather on offer as it's all down hill from Thursday, another torrid spell of unseasonal dross heading our which appears to be gettig beefed up with passing model run!

[Dave K]

Chris Alder, on 19 June 2012 - 07:41, said:

Well for those not working today or tomorrow enjoy the reasonable weather on offer as it's all down hill from Thursday, another torrid spell of unseasonal dross heading our which appears to be gettig beefed up with passing model run!

And the downside of today's weather for me is...rampaging hay fever

[Andy Mayhew]

Been nice having the sun streaming in through my bedroom window at 5.30 these past 2 mornings Hasn't take long for cumulus to bubble up and cover most of the sky though ....

[Duncan Railton]

skanky, on 13 June 2012 - 16:05, said:

You mean June 2007?

I did mean June 2007 - but now I look at it July 2007 actually scored worse...

Anyway, today will likely score 8.5 and yesterday 7.5... Bringing the average to.... 3.92!
Which is truly awful...

We have managed a jaw dropping 20.2C today, so the chance of a 20C free June have now gone, thankfully! However, my first June with no 25C still looks odds on.

[Dave K]

Yes, getting over 20 °C today allied with some strong midsummer sunshine is a bit of a shock to the system!

[skanky]

Duncan Railton, on 19 June 2012 - 15:24, said:

I did mean June 2007 - but now I look at it July 2007 actually scored worse...

Anyway, today will likely score 8.5 and yesterday 7.5... Bringing the average to.... 3.92!
Which is truly awful...

We have managed a jaw dropping 20.2C today, so the chance of a 20C free June have now gone, thankfully! However, my first June with no 25C still looks odds on.

I was away part of July, though I'm not overly surprised, I vaguely remember it being reasonably dry between the two big rainfall events.

[Lightning Hunter]

Unbroken sunshine today and yesterday at work near Fareham - very pleasant summer weather indeed

As I work outside much of the time, the sunshine amounts seem not too bad this summer so far.

[Ed.]

18-22C, light/mod breeze, bit of sunshine - tomorrow, could well be almost perfect for those who seek comfort, some brightness, low levels of humidity and no flashes nor bangs! ooer! perhaps the risk of a scattered shower to water the garden YET again..bliss.

[Strider]

Sunday could see a very high ppn total

[Andy Mayhew]

I've already heard two people comment on how hot it is today (and not in a good way) .......

[Ed.]

Nowt pleasing some people eh Andy - by tomorrow they'll have something else to groan about

Temps rising sufficiently today to leave a few outer layers behind, and to think we're getting pretty excited about temps reaching into the twenties celsius, in the midst of deepest June?...and approaching the longest day! boy we need it

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[Duncan Railton]

Yesterday we reached 20C, should do it again today, with ratings in the 8-9 range... Beyond that the forecast is dire, and the models are predicting truly awful summer weather.

With the persistant trough over the east atlantic stuck, with a block to the east - again - it is looking a certainty that I will record my coolest, most miserable June ever (2004- ). We need a further 163mm to exceed my wettest June, so that seems unlikely...

June looks likely to come in 1C below CET average here (my coolest) and with the coolest average max - around 16-17. July looks like starting the same...

Basically its horrible and I can't see when it will change. Surely it has to at some point? Someone go move the jet!

[Chris Alder]

The first round of rain is starting to show its hand over Cornwall and more particularly over the Brest peninsular, currently onlt light rain but I'm sure as the atmosphere starting destablising things will beef up considerably.

[Dave K]

Weather forecasters deny they are ruining Kent’s holiday trade


http://www.kentnews....trade_1_1416355


Surely it's the actual weather that's doing that! To be fair, if a family in Birmingham are hoping to travel to Thanet for a holiday a few days hence they are not going to get the more detailed forecasts taking very local variations into account as given by BBC SE, are they!

[Andy Mayhew]

Similar story from Felixstowe:

Don't blame the weather - it's those forecasters!

Though I'm not sure where he got the idea that all caravan parks in Southern England were on flood alert last weekend from?

[Dave K]

I suppose that blaming the actual weather (day-to-day experience of which is surely putting off all but the most determined and intrepid) would be counter-productive. OK so we might not get the heaviest of the rain down here but who really wants to be in a caravan with 40 - 50 mph gusts outside?

Still, let's instead shoot the messengers...

[skanky]

His whole set of quotes - either as mangled by the paper, or the issues in his mind - are conflating several things, though I guess the public may be doing the same.
I'm not sure that indicating showers for a region (which is what he's referring to with the map) is alarmist, though when he uses that word, may be he's referring to certain newspapers?

The idea of a single symbol on a map referring to a whole region can't be referring to the BBC, as they don't use symbols - in fact their graphics should be showing what he wants assuming that the models have picked up on the main reason for the showers. So I'm not sure why they paper asked them. Again, he's probably referring to the newspapers, who (often) don't go into the detail necessary to give that information.

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[Dave K]

skanky, on 20 June 2012 - 16:51, said:

His whole set of quotes - either as mangled by the paper, or the issues in his mind - are conflating several things, though I guess the public may be doing the same.
I'm not sure that indicating showers for a region (which is what he's referring to with the map) is alarmist, though when he uses that word, may be he's referring to certain newspapers?

The idea of a single symbol on a map referring to a whole region can't be referring to the BBC, as they don't use symbols - in fact their graphics should be showing what he wants assuming that the models have picked up on the main reason for the showers. So I'm not sure why they paper asked them. Again, he's probably referring to the newspapers, who (often) don't go into the detail necessary to give that information.

But, but but, it can't be that because we are told here the wider public is wise enough neither to take what they read in newspapers as gospel nor assume that the MetO is issuing rubbish forecasts when it's someone else entirely!